David Waddell and Matt Walling were both asked if they saw the vacuum laying in the middle of the floor. His car out - her car in street - big kids downstairs- doesnt hear a struggle - lost pants - ran across street- and more.. maybe he was the only one that actually knew that THEY WOULD BE HOME???? What would happen next? The inmate is identified only as "Karl," but the contents of the letter were a bombshell. That notwithstanding, I too noticed some details that were inaccurate. Do you remember talking to Detective Waddell there when he came into your house? This fingerprint did not match one single person who was known to be in the house that night; it did not belong to any of the Routiers, nor did it match any of the police officers or paramedics (all were printed to rule them out). I have no doubt that they did call a psychic, which goes to show just how desperate they were to figure out what happened. Smith pointed out that many of the items being sent for analysis have never undergone DNA testing. I swear these worms have been eating at me for 3 plus years at this point. The Innocence Project is paying for the shipment of evidence between laboratories, according to the judges orders. As if Rickels' testimony wasn't enough for reasonable doubt, we also have the affidavit filed by Darlene Potter. Here's a little piece of that cross-examination that didn't receive nearly as much media time as the rest: Q. Glass remained in the wine rack, proving that this glass was not broken by being thrown to the floor. They did this in the hopes that they would catch an earth-shattering graveside confession. I am tired of feeding them. Okay. So there you have it; all of the reasons why I do not believe Darlie Lynn Routier is guilty of murdering her children. Now, when I look at the pictures of the sink, I see: the left side, the right side, and the front. His reply cannot be heard; he may have answered non-verbally with a nod, but he's in the room with Darlie when she asks the question. Kudos to you JustinCase Great article. Nonsense. The dog and the cats would chase each other around the house, knocking over knickknacks and houseplants, tracking dirt everywhere, etc. JustinCase976 (author) on March 11, 2020: I would bet money that the Texas authorities already have someone under investigation. As the man made his escape, he dropped a large butcher knife onto the floor. Because she had already been told that they were dead. They are not replacing her current counsel, but rather are working in tandem with the appellate team. He would have had to have been kicking her arms for half an hour straight to cause that kind of bruising. Question: If the police officer committed perjury like you say, why hasn't the conviction been overturned? Question: Tell me more about how the DNA and AFIS databases differ, what are we looking for? We may have to agree to disagree about Darin. The murders were premeditated, meaning Darlie chose to do this in the middle of the night, with Darin at home and just upstairs. I have to admit though, I loved the judge from that movie. It is in the toxicology report, but Greg Davis lied and would not turn over the results to th edefense during the trial. Two of these associates were a married couple identified in the book as "Dwayne" and "Karen." In part 1 we discuss the crime scene, the injuries, and blood evidence. It is my understanding that recent testing of the night shirt revealed an unknown DNA profile. If Darlie is only able to relay bits and pieces of what happened, then obviously there is certain information, perhaps vital information, that is missing. I think every last juror saw every last one of those pictures. In several of these letters, Darlie stated that she knew who the killer was. She will want Justice. Darin was too busy trying to resuscitate Devon, so he's not the one who got them out. Quinncy was skeptical, to say the least. At the very end of the call, the operator tells her to go talk to the police officers. How will that look? Shaking my head. She said she saw him, and that once they had more information on him, she was sure she'd be found innocent. I can understand the theory you have although, just like EPSTEIN DIDNT KILL HIMSELF.. there are so many coincidences ???? Darlie is where she belongs. Her husband, Darin, according to court documents, was asleep with the couples newborn in an upstairs bedroom. We also have to wonder what was stricken from the actual record, but still made it to the ears of the jury. I love how the non supporters always say Darin was the primary suspect at first. Where is Teresa Powers affidavit? An attorney representing Darlie Routier, a former Altoona woman facing the death penalty in Texas for the murder of her two young children 25 years ago, said he is buoyed by an order issued last week in Dallas County ordering additional DNA testing of the massive amount of evidence collected in the case. I don't believe that Waddell encountered or spoke to Darin when he first arrived, and here's why: If you listen to the 911 call, at the 3:29 mark, Darlie asks Darin if the children are dead. The scene was most definitely staged. Had Bevel been on the other side of the case, I firmly believe Tolle would have ruled differently. Mayne is the winner, and he was not the victim of a traumatic attack that resulted in the murder of his children. Besides the trouble was downstairs,not upstairs. Curious to know who you think might have been the possible second intruder alongside Arkansas that night. Glenn Mize was the only person Darlie could think of that she had a problem with, and Gary Austin's own wife threw him under the bus as a person of interest. She effectively communicated within the first few seconds that she and the children were injured and needed help. If Devon had caused that kind of bruising, he had to have been kicking at her inner arms for a prolonged period of timea period of time that was longer than his actual attack. He testified that on the morning of June 6, 1996, he had just settled into bed and drifted off when his sleep was broken by some kind of noise or commotion. It fell off when bandage removed. Question: What information does AFIS hold? Darlie's story was also featured. and a bloodbath of two butchered little boys. This whole case reeks of corruption! Responding to Darlie Routier's hysterical 911 call from her Rowlett, Dallas, home on June 6, 1996, police officers found two of her three sons, 6-year-old Devon and 5-year-old Damon, with fatal stab wounds. She knows her daughter did this. Since when does rage have to be personal? What Darlie initially relayed to the police, her family, and the media was most likely disjointed fragments of memories assembled to the best of her ability. And too add it is not impossible what the psychic said they is evil in both male and females in this world and is possible that it could have been a female intruder ? Darlie routier dna results 2020 Transcript for Darley Rathier remains on death row for killing her son: Part 11 Darley has been on death row for 22 years and she still has no date for execution. When it comes to this case, I have never been confident with either the crime scene preservation or the collection of the evidence. Imagine the fallout if the public got wind of the fact a child killer literally slipped right under Waddell's nose. I can understand that, except that I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum. He never notified the dispatcher that he was on the scene; therefore, the dispatcher had no idea that a police officer was in the house and did not realize that Darlie was speaking to him. I believe his shady business deals were the reason this happened, and he knew it, and did everything in his power to keep it from coming back on him. A. I assumed it was two to three or four minutes, somewhere in that area. I'm sorry, but it just doesn't wash. Cron certainly had an impressive resume and over 30 years of experience, but sometimes this can work against a person. Please do not hate me or think in any way that this is your fault. Look at the floor plan of the Routier's first floor to get a better idea of where they were positioned. Still, Karl had nothing to gain by telling this story. ;). When questioned about the time at which this took place, Gorsuch testified during direct examination that he looked at the clock and it was 2:40 am. The judge also ordered DNA profiles from each member of the Routier family also be sent to the California lab for comparison purposes. About 1520 minutes later, Rickels heard noises again, this time coming from her daughter's empty first floor bedroom. Q. And, is that when you looked at the clock? He also wrote to Houston attorney and former investigative reporter Quinncy McNeal, who was also named in the article, relating the same story. This is good for Darlie in the sense that it adds yet another element of doubt regarding her story of an intruder. The "guilters" would chuckle at the insinuation of a "conspiracy" but is it really such a far reach? Yeah nice fantasy theory but it'll never hold up in court. This diary entry has been referred to as a "suicide note" and some people actually see it as a confession. An attorney representing Darlie Routier, a former Altoona woman facing the death penalty in Texas for the murder of her two young children 25 years ago, said he is buoyed by an order issued. It would have to be proven that: the witness knowingly gave false testimony; this testimony had a direct influence on the court decisions and/or verdict; and that the prosecution was aware of the false nature of the testimony--which even I have to concede that they may not have been. Guilters claim that those tears were the result of her being "caught in her own lies.". She even went on Facebook and ranted that she was refusing his help because it was a non supporter that contacted his people and then they contacted Kee. You never told him that any time he was in your house? October 15, 2021 11:56 am. Attorneys for Routier, including Smith and J. Stephen Cooper of Dallas, Richard Burr of Houston and Jane Pucher and Vanessa Potkin of the Innocence Project, all agreed to the procedure as outlined by the judge. Another huge issue for me is the 911 call. The exhibit below shows a "DNA map" of blood trails belonging to each of the injured Routiers. and the part about Darlie and the babysitter rebecca laughing when Drake was starting to fall from the couch? How long had they been in that house? A liar already has their story prepared in their mind. This was incorrect; Darin testified that he locked the front door before going upstairs to bed, but he wasn't sure about the utility room door. Darin wasn't hurt and the baby was with Darin. Do you think her live-in bf had nothing to do with it as well? Darlie Routier: Wrongfully Convicted of Murdering Her Children JustinCase976 Sep 1, 2022 Darlie Routier with Damon (left) and Devon (right) The Darlie Routier Case On June 6th, 1996, someone brutally murdered two little boys and got away with it. She claims an intruder entered her Dallas area home in June of 1996, stabbed two of her children, and attacked her. I think she was a bit of a drama queen that made a big deal out of absolutely nothing. That is NOT in Kathy's book and is not common knowledge, so I was taken aback to see that particular comment. IMO. JustinCase976 (author) on February 29, 2020: I do remember that Darlie said they had a psychic come to the house to do a reading. He also claims that Darlie described to him how she struggled or fought with the intruder by the kitchen bar, but that conversation never took place. When someone comes up with a cover story, they've usually got their details in order before they start talking. I happen to know that bit about the frog planter is true, but it is not common knowledge. Some people theorize that the bruising was a result of Devon kicking at her while she was stabbing him, since he did show signs of defensive injuries. What kind of mother wears such revealing clothing, all that flashy jewelry, and a ring on each finger? Darlie's Pathfinder was parked in the street; it would have appeared as if no one was home. So they were never questioned or looked into at all? Darin and Neal had planned this for months against Darlie. JustinCase976 (author) on February 28, 2020: I didn't know that but that definitely raises an eyebrow. Linch was instructed by the prosecution team to avoid recording his findings in a written report. In another, she has no memory of fighting with him. If my wife started screaming downstairs Id be haulin arse to get down there. He also stated that he never actually saw the police officer get out of the car. I thank you for the compliment; I make every effort to be as accurate and detail oriented as possible. At around 2:30 in the morning of June 6, 1996, Rowlett, Texas homemaker Darlie Routier awoke on her family room couch to see the silhouette of a man walking away from her in the dark. It certainly isn't impossible, but I formed my opinion based on verifiable facts, and I just haven't seen anything that points to a woman's involvement. If she was really this calculating, cold-blooded murderer, she had plenty of better opportunities to pull this off. That jury was never going to vote not guilty, no matter what. I would probably roll my eyes at the conspiracy claim, too if this happened in any other state. With several items of evidence from the crime scene recently undergoing additional testing, and some items actually being tested for the very first time, I'm confident that they finally have an unknown male profile to work with. Now, was this during the time that you said that you wanted Mrs. Routier to administer first aid. In Darlie's case, she probably subconsciously realized there had been more than one person, but since she only has a memory of seeing one of them, her confusion is understandable. Arkansas had a serious drug problem, a vicious temper, and little to no impulse control. Darlie's DNA trail is shown in green, Devon's in yellow, and Damon's in red. That's actually in Kathy Cruz's book. Price: $355,000 (sold after the murder for an unknown price) Darlie Routier Address: 801 Eagle Dr, Rowlett, TX 75088. From what Karen remembers hearing from Dwayne upon their return, the men had broken into a house that was supposed to be empty and "f***ed some people up. Innocence Project is not taking her case. He was returned to the Potter County Jail. LOL Fern! So what's the deal with the Innocence Project? So please forgive me for not taking those transcripts as the holy grail of this case. Steve Cooper has known about this evidence for many years but that maggot has not got Texas to look at it. Darlie picked up the knife without thinking about it and headed back to the family room where she and her young sons had fallen asleep. How many times did the dispatcher say something along the lines of, "Ma'am, I need you to stay on the phone with me." On the nights when Darlie would sleep on the couch, that wasn't an issue. Their mother, Darlie Routier, 26, slept on the couch. She never could get the order of events right when she told the story. Two things to keep in mind: 1) The Innocence Project normally does not become involved with any defendant that already has counsel in place, so that right there ought to tell you something; 2) They also don't accept cases where there is no exculpatory DNA evidence. "Tell me what's going on?" He actually came from a decent, hard-working, all-American/God fearing family, and I think every night when he tried to sleep he would see Devon's face until he couldn't stand it anymore. In part 1 we discuss the crime scene, the injuries, and blood evidence. Judge Audra Riley of Dallas County signed on order on Sept. 30 instructing multiple agencies including the Dallas County District Clerk, the Rowlett Police Department, the Southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences, the Texas Department of Public Safety and the University of North Texas Center for Human Identification to collect their evidence from the Routier case and send it to the Forensic Analytical Crime Laboratory in Hayward, Calif. I'm going to outline some of those concerns in this article. JustinCase976 (author) on October 29, 2019: Heather Rose, I agree with you completely. So, I did the next best thing: I asked multiple sources close to the case, and received the same response from more than one person: Domain would be brought into the bedroom every night from the first week they got him. If you have seen this image in connection with Darlie Routier, you have been grossly misled. Many people believe that an intruder broke into 26 year old Darlie's Rowlett, Texas home and murdered her young bo Keep in mind, Darlie is on the phone with 911 and Darin is attempting to perform CPR on Devon, who is not breathing. Well C. George, in a perfect world, the others would definitely be held accountable. Darins pants are a problem. Q. Was he sleeping in his pants? Q. At first she insisted there were no audio tapes; later she recanted and admitted that there were audio tapes, locked in a storage unit. That's funny, Laurie! He began submitting open records requests of all inmates that were at Potter County Jail in the fall of 1996. Did you listen to the 911 call? Seems it would have to be someone with big Reach ? I'm not saying it's impossible for his kicking to have caused that bruising, but it is improbable. The 1993-built Routier home has 2,740 square feet with three bedrooms and three baths. She wasn't thinking about it at all; she was answering Waddell's questions about what had occurred. The biggest discrepancy was that the article cited Greg Davis as the attorney who cross-examined Darlie, when in reality, it was actually Toby Shook. I have no doubt that Diane Downs shot her children and then shot herself in the arm. He's also the one who arranged Darin's polygraph test. The main focus was on Devon, who was not breathing. Gorsuch also testified that when he saw Darin and Waddell together, no other police or paramedics had arrived at the scene yet. Guilters have been quick to dismiss Rickels as a "lying lunatic" or a "brain damaged stroke victim on a cocktail of drugs.". A. Nothing happens overnight; it's all a process. Waddell stated that he approached the man, gun drawn, and asked Darin to identify himself. Q. Because it couldn't be matched to anyone elseand with Cron's statement that it "could" be a juvenile printit suddenly became proof positive that Damon must have left that fingerprint. You can believe that or not, but I have an email from Bryce Benjet acknowledging their involvement. Guilters gleefully point out that Darlie used the phrase "I don't know" or "I don't remember" 72 times during her cross-examination. I do not fault him if his memory of the events is not accurate, linear, and chronological; under those chaotic and traumatic circumstances, I would not expect them to be. She was nervous, intimidated, and probably terrified, but she came off as cold and arrogant. When Darlie mentioned the knife to Waddell, the dispatcher immediately instructed her not to touch it. All of us who have prayed and stayed along her journey, will soon know more about this triumphant soul. She had some over-the-counter sleeping pills on hand, but as she was writing the note, she abandoned the idea and did the healthiest thing possible: she reached out for help. More posts from r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 574K subscribers Mary Rickels eye yi yi Re: Darlene Potter, I could understand remembering the day I pulled a big trailer from my daughters. In my opinion, it is neither. So why is he testifying under oath about a conversation that never happened? Guess what this ISN'T? The ultra-conservative jury did not see her as someone they could identify with. There was no guarantee that the police would find it, or realize that it was linked to the murders. Whether they moved it mindfully or subconsciously, I can't say, but I'm 100% confident that it was moved after police arrived and were inside the house. It is known that Darin did go outside to get help from Karen Neal, another neighbor across the street who happened to be a nurse. There was no valid reason for this; these nurses did not attend to Damon or Devon and would not be testifying about their injuries or autopsies. In one account, she fought with the intruder. I would have loved for Mulder to call her in rebuttal of the other nurses's testimony. JustinCase976 (author) on December 10, 2019: Vanessa Potkin and Bryce Benjet of the NY Innocence Project are indeed involved in her case. Almost all of her other entries were upbeat and positive, with Darlie remarking on how blessed she was, but the prosecution was not interested in those entries. Apparently, while she was attacking the first child, the other one was just sleeping through it peacefully, or was quietly and patiently waiting for his turn. Answer: AFIS works like this: a latent print that cannot be defined as to which hand or finger (left or right) comes into the fingerprint unit. The two boys both died, but she was . There was a brief mention of it when Darlie was on the witness stand, but the prosecution objected on the grounds of hearsay. Nope, try again. In the first account, she awoke to see a man standing at the edge of the couch, walking away from her toward the kitchen. SOMEONE had to have left that fingerprint in blood; the blood was still wet and fresh when the print was left. He never submitted a report, becauseyou guessed ithe was instructed not to. Tom Bevel was hired by the state as a blood spatter expert. During this meeting, Bevel stated unequivocally that the blood mixture on the back of the shirt was the result of one single occurrence of spatter. Darin and Darlie Routier were a young couple in their 20s with 3 children, 6-year-old Devon, 5-year-old Damon, and 8-month-old Drake. She has also been charged with capital murder in the death of her six-year-old son, Devon, who was murdered at the same time as Damon. If the software finds a match, the uploading agency is notified and is then tasked with the dissemination of personal information. The software will then compare that print to all other prints stored in the database. In April, though, the Innocence Project in New York entered the case and its review of the evidence and subsequent petition won court approval for further testing. These worms keep telling lies. What's wrong with this woman? I predict that the first one to talk will get immunity. How did you know about that??? Among the not-so-minor errors: answers of "yes" were recorded as "no" and vice versa; during deliberations, the jury had a question with regard to whether or not Darin testified that he had locked the door connecting the utility room to the garage; the answer they received was that he did. Darin had appliedand been turned downfor a $5,000 loan on June 1st. He would have had no way of knowing that Bevel would directly contradict what he had told the defense team. 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